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    What he did may have been overkill, but I think he has been devoting himself to repairing his image and seems to be succeeding at it. I'm surprised to see that they haven't ragged on Rihanna for trying to get back with him (or so they say). I think there's bigger problems they could touch on than Chris Brown at the Grammys. Haven't we already held him accountable?

    I don't even watch the Grammys, that shit bores me.

    The 2012 Grammys had some wonderful moments. Jennifer Hudson performing “I Will Always Love You” as a tribute to the late Whitney Houston had me tearing up. Adele had her glorious and well-deserved moment in the spotlight (her performance of “Rolling in the Deep” was amazing and her acceptance speech for Album of the Year was particularly adorable). Robyn wore this.

    But my entire Grammy’s experience was marred by the fact that Chris Brown was allowed not only to attend, but perform at the Grammys just three years after a publicly known domestic violence incident.
    It is absolutely unacceptable that someone who is known to have perpetuated violence against a woman has been so uncritically welcomed and promoted by the music industry.
    2012 Grammy Awards marred by Chris Brown performance

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    "It is absolutely unacceptable that someone who is known to have perpetuated violence against a woman has been so uncritically welcomed and promoted by the music industry."...

    What about those female celebs who slap, bite, and scream at their partners?

    Some of the posts on feministing are way too hypercritical to be understood. I definitely do not condone what Chris Brown did, it was wrong. But to hold him accountable for this long is crazy and weird.

    The part that gets me is "perpetuated violence against a woman"

    As usual, men cannot be a victim of violence and if so it doesn't matter ....

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    • #3
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      I was so confused I actually took a look at "Feministing".

      The Marie-Antoinette Ladies Coffee Morning or what?? It's a lunatic asylum for the over-privileged.

      As Frank McCourt would say, "I wouldn't give them the steam of my piss".

      Is there a reason why men bother more about this site than say, "lesbian_train_spotters_for_world_domination.c om" ??
      BE A MAN. Whether they bloody well like it, or not..... but it's not compulsory.

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        While Chris Brown was wrong for what he did, he's had enough time to deal with the consequences and trying to right his wrongs.
        He deserves to have a second chance, just like all of us when we do something stupid. Only God can give him the final judgement, so let us move on.

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          Quote from haute macabre View Post
          While Chris Brown was wrong for what he did, he's had enough time to deal with the consequences and trying to right his wrongs.
          He deserves to have a second chance, just like all of us when we do something stupid. Only God can give him the final judgement, so let us move on.
          Sure, if Chris Brown just stomped a mudhole in Rihanna's ass and walked it dry just because he can then it is wrong. The bruises Rihanna suffered doesn't necessarily mean she wasn't violent towards Chris, though, it just possibly means he was better at being violent. It's just that our culture tells us violence against women is wrong but even based on the stories I've heard Rihanna initiated the violence. Should men be punished for not restraining themselves from harming females that attack them?

          Even though we can't be certain what led up to this incident, has Rihanna denied reports of initiating the violence? He's the only one being crucified by the public and "trying to right his wrongs". Rihanna has never been forced to do a public service announcement or "apology" condemning violence against men. Plus, based on what we know about our relationship with women as a group women initiate more violence against men than vice versa and women usually initiate the violence they suffer from.

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            No matter how much Feministing will complain:

            EDIT: Here's the entire rundown: 25 Extremely Upsetting Reactions To Chris Brown At The Grammys

            I think I saw #10 on FreakJet

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              Quote from Popadibs View Post
              Sure, if Chris Brown just stomped a mudhole in Rihanna's ass and walked it dry just because he can then it is wrong. The bruises Rihanna suffered doesn't necessarily mean she wasn't violent towards Chris, though, it just possibly means he was better at being violent. It's just that our culture tells us violence against women is wrong but even based on the stories I've heard Rihanna initiated the violence. Should men be punished for not restraining themselves from harming females that attack them?

              Even though we can't be certain what led up to this incident, has Rihanna denied reports of initiating the violence? He's the only one being crucified by the public and "trying to right his wrongs". Rihanna has never been forced to do a public service announcement or "apology" condemning violence against men. Plus, based on what we know about our relationship with women as a group women initiate more violence against men than vice versa and women usually initiate the violence they suffer from.
              Depends on how she initiated it. If she was being physical, then yes he has a right to defend himself.

              If she was just being verbal, he should of told her to get out of the car and move on from the situation. A few nasty words doesn't warrant a few punches to the face.

              If I hit everyone that said horrible things to me, I'd be in jail right now.

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              • #8
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                Quote from haute macabre View Post
                Depends on how she initiated it. If she was being physical, then yes he has a right to defend himself.

                If she was just being verbal, he should of told her to get out of the car and move on from the situation. A few nasty words doesn't warrant a few punches to the face.

                If I hit everyone that said horrible things to me, I'd be in jail right now.
                The bottom line is that you just flat out said Chris Brown was wrong for what he did without even knowing the whole story. Isn't that the very assumption and attitude we're supposed to be up against?

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                  Quote from Popadibs View Post
                  The bottom line is that you just flat out said Chris Brown was wrong for what he did without even knowing the whole story. Isn't that the very assumption and attitude we're supposed to be up against?
                  I barely care or understand the vacuous aspect of the story. I am good at gleaning facts which sculpt the minds of the unimformed:

                  Anyone who knows the genuine details of the story will realize it should have been Rhianna who was arrested and jailed. She attacked Brown while he was driving on a motorway, after she'd stolen his mobile and jealously concluded that female names on his phone meant he was cheating (they were in fact business + music contacts). He had every right to defend himself from what was essentially attempted murder (he's driving at speed on a motorway remember).

                  He was arrested because America has something called the "primary aggressor" rule, which is a piece of discriminatory legislation devised by feminists, where the man ends up getting arrested in a domestic altercation regardless of the facts, witnesses and evidence. It's as bad as the old apartheid laws! Her videos routinely promote violence against men. Women's violence is not only acceptable and glorified, but fashionable. Unfortunately, many pliable people can't break out of the bigoted man=perpetrator, woman=eternal victim mindset.

                  There was also (as a prospective lawyer), what I saw as a subtle death threat where Miranda Lambert refers to her 2007 lyrics about a woman who prepares to kill her (alleged) abusive husband. She also sounds like a misandrist, where a man 'must be put back in his place.'
                  Last edited by Celtic Druid; 16th-February-2012, 10:42 AM.

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                    Celtic, I'm merely pointing out that this attitude highlighted below

                    Quote from haute macabre View Post
                    While Chris Brown was wrong for what he did
                    is the same attitude that law enforcement has when making a decision to arrest a man in a violent dispute. The man is ALWAYS wrong no matter what happened and the woman is NEVER wrong no matter what happened is a common theme.

                    When such attitudes are present in this environment, of all places, they should be pointed out. I've actually heard of the details of what happened but I didn't wish to highlight them but to make a point. Perhaps, had I mentioned what really happened according to reports it may have only strengthened my point, though.

                    One thing I despise about women and men when they're defending women is that they paint this picture as if they're an innocent party that has done no wrong and are attacked for no reason. The image they paint is not the image they live.

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                      Most of Miranda Lambert's music is violent and misandric just like most of Keith Urban's and Tim Mcgraw's music is of the sissy mangina fare. Most female country singers (and many of other generes) are somewhat misandric, but Miranda Lambert thrives on it...

                      She is the one country singer I refuse to listen to at all although I don't like most of the others either...

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                        Re: Feministing Has Complaints About The Grammys

                        Quote from Celtic Druid View Post
                        Anyone who knows the genuine details of the story will realize it should have been Rhianna who was arrested and jailed. She attacked Brown while he was driving on a motorway, after she'd stolen his mobile and jealously concluded that female names on his phone meant he was cheating (they were in fact business + music contacts). He had every right to defend himself from what was essentially attempted murder (he's driving at speed on a motorway remember).

                        He was arrested because America has something called the "primary aggressor" rule, which is a piece of discriminatory legislation devised by feminists, where the man ends up getting arrested in a domestic altercation regardless of the facts, witnesses and evidence. It's as bad as the old apartheid laws! Her videos routinely promote violence against men. Women's violence is not only acceptable and glorified, but fashionable. Unfortunately, many pliable people can't break out of the bigoted man=perpetrator, woman=eternal victim mindset.

                        There was also (as a prospective lawyer), what I saw as a subtle death threat where Miranda Lambert refers to her 2007 lyrics about a woman who prepares to kill her (alleged) abusive husband. She also sounds like a misandrist, where a man 'must be put back in his place.'
                        This is what I mean by the image women paint isn't the same as the image they live.



                        What you're saying is not even close to what she's saying. Many women pretend to be Virgin Mary when they're really Jezebels. This is why I can't trust most women. Why can't they just be honest and tell the truth? Why do they hide so many facts and then when they are dishonest why do so many other men and women defend them?

                        I'm told by many that it is wrong to generalize women but when I watch these Chris Brown/Rihanna videos or anything regarding violence between males and females all I see is generalizations made against men by both men AND women. If so many women are sexist against men then there are enough of them to be called out as sexists against men. We're not making extrapolations by saying what is obviously true. If you assume without knowing the facts or even in the face of the facts when the facts say otherwise that the man is wrong then you are being prejudiced against men/ a man.

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                        • #13
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                          I read all the previous posts with care.

                          While it's quite acceptable to say that nobody knows the whole story in any relationship, there's still a tendency to argue the toss according to norms that are defined by politicians, the media and the chattering classes.

                          Men and women in intimate relationships have had problems with each other since the beginning of time. In times gone by, if they couldn't resolve their differences 'one-on-one' they would appeal to their extended families (who BTW had a stake and a responsibility in the marriage since they approved it in the first place.) Failing that, the wider community would generally be the arbiter of which spouse was not 'pulling their weight', according to currently accepted community values.

                          First and foremost men and women should know how they relate to each other - what they give and what they receive. If it's not mutually beneficial the relationship is doomed - end of story.
                          If people choose to live their lives according to flawed political concepts - feminism or 'national socialism' - might be examples) they expose themselves to risk. Their family and community are overridden by the dictates of the State.

                          The "Grammys" are merely a spectacular pantomime - beloved by insular folk who believe that the tacky showbiz really has some meaning and is supported by celebrities who will use any means they can to keep everybody buying into the silly distraction.

                          What's really sad is that western men actually believe it's worth quibbling about. They are so deadly serious about trying to fix something that's already broken.
                          Who cares about the 'Grammy's'?? Who cares about what Mizz privileged fuckwit says on 'Feministing'??
                          Why are MRAs drawn into this shallow and meaningless trivia, as if it actually meant something? Why do they waste so much time on it, when they could be re-organizing their lives?

                          It's probably a subject for a new thread.
                          BE A MAN. Whether they bloody well like it, or not..... but it's not compulsory.

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                            Re: Feministing Has Complaints About The Grammys

                            Quote from Popadibs View Post
                            The bottom line is that you just flat out said Chris Brown was wrong for what he did without even knowing the whole story. Isn't that the very assumption and attitude we're supposed to be up against?
                            I only know what I heard, I never got into the details of it when I first came out. I usually do try to get to the full story but sometimes I don't, so my bad.

                            I'm not perfect and do mess up.

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                              Quote from Yan Yan View Post
                              What's really sad is that western men actually believe it's worth quibbling about. They are so deadly serious about trying to fix something that's already broken.
                              Who cares about the 'Grammy's'?? Who cares about what Mizz privileged fuckwit says on 'Feministing'??
                              Why are MRAs drawn into this shallow and meaningless trivia, as if it actually meant something? Why do they waste so much time on it, when they could be re-organizing their lives?
                              I'd wish to forever purge myself from the mindless insanities the masses readily consume their tiny minds with. I do realize, however, that 'Hollywood' despite it's intellectual shortcomings, is a expansive platform for social and political influence. Many political soldiers can, and have been drawn from this particular platform. Don't knock it.

                              However, don't become the pawn in the chess game of another's devising!
                              Last edited by Celtic Druid; 16th-February-2012, 11:18 PM.

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