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    Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl

    Last Updated: Monday, April 13, 2009 | 9:50 AM ET Comments31Recommend43

    CBC News


    Investigators have brought in behavioural experts to help in the search for an eight-year-old southwestern Ontario girl who has not been seen since last week.
    Victoria (Tori) Stafford was last seen leaving her school on Wednesday afternoon. (Photo provided by Woodstock police)Specialists from the Ontario Provincial Police are now working the case to create a profile of someone who might be involved in Victoria Stafford's disappearance in Woodstock.
    Surveillance video showed the Grade 3 student, known to her friends as Tori, walking with an unidentified woman as she left school Wednesday afternoon in the city of 35,000 east of London.
    Investigators, who have called the woman a "person of interest," are poring through dozens of tips from the public about her identity.
    The woman in the video is described by police as between 19 and 25 years old, between 120 and 125 pounds, with straight long black hair in a ponytail. She was wearing a white coat and black jeans.
    Police said they have no reason at this time to suspect foul play, but the search for Victoria has continued around the clock with more than 200 volunteers from the community helping police.
    Family has 'no answers'

    The search continued Monday after about 1,000 people joined the girl's relatives for a candlelight vigil in Woodstock on Sunday night.
    Stafford's parents, Tara McDonald and Rodney Stafford, separated last December. The father, who described the relationship as "an ongoing struggle," said he doesn't believe any of Victoria's relatives are behind her disappearance.
    "I have no answers," the missing girl's mother said at the vigil. "Nobody can even begin to imagine what our family is going through."
    Surrounded by his family at the vigil, Rodney Stafford thanked the hundreds of people who have helped search for his daughter.
    "To me it is a dream, and I wish someone would slap me and wake me up, and preferably it be Tori," her father said.
    Anyone with information can call police at (519) 537-2323 or contact Crime Stoppers anonymously at 1-800-222-TIPS.
    With files from The Canadian Press

    Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl


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    Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

    "No reason to suspect foul play" ...????

    A child is led away by a stranger and not seen since, and that's not foul?

    Good grief...!

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    • #3
      Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

      Well maybe some don’t like to look at it as that foul because the kid was lead away by a woman. A stranger is a stranger and if a kid goes away with one, that kid is in serious danger of foul play which people would have no hesitation in concluding if it were a man.

      If the child hasn’t been seen since last week, then it looks like this woman kidnapped the girl, it’s as foul as that and possibly more. Or are they cowering to the notion that the kids OK because a woman took her Gotta appease the feminists you know.

      Is feminism stopping people calling a spade a spade here over the obvious danger a little girl is in?

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        Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

        Quote from Trauma Fried Brains View Post
        Well maybe some don’t like to look at it as that foul because the kid was lead away by a woman. A stranger is a stranger and if a kid goes away with one, that kid is in serious danger of foul play which people would have no hesitation in concluding if it were a man.

        If the child hasn’t been seen since last week, then it looks like this woman kidnapped the girl, it’s as foul as that and possibly more. Or are they cowering to the notion that the kids OK because a woman took her Gotta appease the feminists you know.

        Is feminism stopping people calling a spade a spade here over the obvious danger a little girl is in?
        Good question, TFB!

        It just goes to show you how pervasive the myth is that women are somehow "less dangerous" than men.

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          Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

          Quote from Trauma Fried Brains View Post
          Is feminism stopping people calling a spade a spade here over the obvious danger a little girl is in?
          Definitely.

          Keeping on a child protection theme. The NSPCC (The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children), a UK charity, is well known for it's feminist bias.

          In much of it's advertising (propaganda?) it misleads people into believing that men are the biggest physical abusers of children. The reality is, it is mothers who pose the greatest physical danger to children (especially boys). All the neutral and government data supports this (including their own). But, the NSPCC (and various government papers) deliberately obfuscates statistics broken down by gender.

          It seems the NSPCC is more concerned with perpetuating feminist lies then actually protecting children. For the radical elements, the collateral damage is inconsequential to maintaining the lie.
          Last edited by Celtic Druid; 13th-April-2009, 08:34 PM.

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          • #6
            Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

            Police call off ground search for Ontario girl

            No evidence of foul play after 'thorough' search of city: police spokeswoman

            Last Updated: Monday, April 13, 2009 | 3:15 PM ET Comments156Recommend124

            CBC News


            Police in southwestern Ontario have ended a "thorough" ground search for an eight-year-old Woodstock girl, but continue to investigate her disappearance as a missing persons case.
            Victoria (Tori) Stafford was last seen leaving her school on Wednesday afternoon. (Photo provided by Woodstock police)Meanwhile, investigators are still not treating Victoria Stafford's disappearance last Wednesday as an abduction because video surveillance showed the Grade 3 student leaving her school "willingly" with an as-yet-unidentified woman, police Const. Laurie-Anne Maitland said.
            "An abduction says that it’s taken by force. We have her willingly walking away," Maitland told reporters Monday.
            Police have received more than 300 tips from the public in the case and are examining a "variety of items” found in the ground search, but none of the items were related to what the girl was wearing at the time of her disappearance, Maitland said.
            There is a "feeling" among investigators that the girl is alive and the ground search could be restarted if new information becomes available, she said.
            "When we’re actively doing a grid search, we’re not looking for a necessarily happy, healthy eight-year-old," She said.
            "We haven't found anything to indicate or support foul play, and that's what keeps me hopeful."
            Surveillance video released over the weekend showed the girl, known to her friends as Tori, walking with an unidentified woman as she left school Wednesday afternoon in the city of 35,000 east of London.
            The woman in the video is described by police as between 19 and 25 years old, between 120 and 125 pounds, with straight long black hair in a ponytail. She was wearing a white coat and black jeans.
            Behavioural specialists from the Ontario Provincial Police have been called in to create a profile of someone who might be involved in the girl's disappearance.
            Family has 'no answers'

            On Sunday night, about 1,000 people joined the girl's relatives for a candlelight vigil in Woodstock.
            Stafford's parents, Tara McDonald and Rodney Stafford, separated last December. The father, who described the relationship as "an ongoing struggle," said he doesn't believe any of Victoria's relatives are behind her disappearance.
            "I have no answers," the missing girl's mother said at the vigil. "Nobody can even begin to imagine what our family is going through."
            Surrounded by his family at the vigil, Rodney Stafford thanked the hundreds of people who have helped search for his daughter.
            "To me it is a dream, and I wish someone would slap me and wake me up, and preferably it be Tori," her father said.
            Anyone with information can call police at (519) 537-2323 or contact Crime Stoppers anonymously at 1-800-222-TIPS.
            With files from The Canadian Press

            http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/sto...l.html?ref=rss

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            • #7
              Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

              Feminist police, my god , we have truly lost.
              Last edited by encryption1; 14th-April-2009, 04:10 AM.

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                Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

                Quote from encryption1 View Post
                This is one of the most feminazi police forces in Canada.

                Wow, I’ve just read of the oxford police and the Peter Tarbat case myself Encryption. I read a few pieces and I’d agree that they seem extreme.

                It now makes perfect sense why they’d not acknowledge foul play against this girl.

                Or indeed why they call an obvious prime suspect a “person of interest”.

                Reading what I did of that areas feminist public services I have no doubt now that if a man had abducted that girl then they would have used the most emotive words to describe the incident.

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                • #9
                  Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

                  DISAPPEARANCE
                  Family makes Facebook plea for girl's return


                  GREG MCARTHUR
                  April 13, 2009

                  The family of a missing eight-year-old girl in Southwestern Ontario is pleading with possible abductors to contact them directly on a cellphone number they posted yesterday on the social networking website Facebook.
                  The uncle of Victoria (Tori) Stafford, who hasn't been seen since she walked away from her Woodstock, Ont., school on Wednesday afternoon with a mysterious woman, has repeatedly posted messages on a Facebook group devoted to recovering the little girl.
                  "This is a message to the individual or individuals who have TORI, I'm posting my cell # so you can contact me. I believe you are reading this. Let me know where we can get together and you can leave Tori with me no questions asked," wrote Rob Stafford.
                  It's a step the family says it needed to take, now that hundreds of volunteers and police officers have come up empty after scouring for clues in the small town's forests, rivers and ponds.
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                  "Who knows where she could be by now? She could be on the way to the West Coast for all we know," said Rebecca Stafford, Victoria's 29-year-old aunt who flew back to her hometown of 39,000 from her new home province of Alberta to help with the search.
                  Ms. Stafford said her family has repeatedly launched into impromptu brainstorming sessions about the grainy video that offers the only clue about what might have happened to the little girl. Police say the video, which was taken from a camera outside Oliver Stephens Public School but at such a distance that faces are difficult to make out, shows a woman in a white puffy coat and black pants walking side-by-side with the Grade Three pupil. There is no sign of a struggle.
                  "We have all sat down and discussed it ad nauseam," Ms. Stafford said. "Anyone that we have thought of - of course we've shared that information with the authorities."
                  She added: "We don't know if we do know the person and it's not someone that she's met. ... Honestly, I don't think that I know the person."
                  Compounding the frustration and anxiety over Victoria's disappearance is all the second-guessing of her friends and family. They wonder whether they might have prevented what appears to be an abduction if they had done something differently that day, Ms. Stafford said.
                  Oxford Community Police Constable Laurie-Anne Maitland said the local police force is being assisted by members of the Ontario Provincial Police Behavioural Sciences unit, whose job it is to try to determine what kind of individual could have taken Victoria.
                  Police have received more than 260 phone tips since Victoria disappeared. A Facebook group set up by a family member now has more than 22,000 members.
                  A candlelight vigil was held last night, just down the street from the police station.
                  Victoria lives only a few blocks from the school with her mother, Tara McDonald, who is separated from her father, Rodney Stafford.
                  "I wonder if she's sleeping, where she's sleeping, if she has a blanket," a sobbing Ms. McDonald said in an interview with CTV. "Whoever has her, are they taking care of her general needs? Is she able to have a bath? It sounds silly to some people, but I worry about her basic needs being met."
                  She urged Victoria, if she was watching TV, to run away from her captors and try to phone home.
                  "I know in my heart that she's okay and that we're going to find her," Ms. McDonald said later at the candlelight vigil. "It's just a matter of time."
                  Victoria's older brother used to walk her home from school, Ms. Stafford said. But Wednesday just happened to be the day that 10-year-old Daryn Stafford escorted a disabled child home in a different direction.
                  "So he was trying to do something nice as a gesture, and ended up having this happen," Ms. Stafford said.
                  The one thing the family isn't second-guessing is the decision by the police to not issue an Amber Alert - the co-ordinated warning system that police can use when they think a child has been kidnapped. While some bloggers and online supporters have been critical of Oxford Community Police for not issuing an alert, the police have said the case didn't meet several criteria: The disappearance isn't a confirmed abduction, and by the time they saw the video, it was several hours after it had been taken.
                  "This is strictly my opinion ... but I don't begrudge the police for dealing with the issue the way that they have and I think they've done a phenomenal job," Ms. Stafford said yesterday.
                  "I wish it had been done, but I can understand why it wasn't - and that's the impression I get from most of my family, too. I haven't heard of anything negative towards the police and the way they've been handling it."

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                  • #10
                    Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

                    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...Story/National

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                      Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

                      Quote from Trauma Fried Brains View Post
                      Wow, I’ve just read of the oxford police and the Peter Tarbat case myself Encryption. I read a few pieces and I’d agree that they seem extreme.

                      It now makes perfect sense why they’d not acknowledge foul play against this girl.

                      Or indeed why they call an obvious prime suspect a “person of interest”.

                      Reading what I did of that areas feminist public services I have no doubt now that if a man had abducted that girl then they would have used the most emotive words to describe the incident.
                      There could be another reason for this (other than feminism)...quote: "the local police force is being assisted by members of the Ontario Provincial Police Behavioural Sciences unit, whose job it is to try to determine what kind of individual could have taken Victoria." Perhaps the search hasn't really been called off, and the statements being made are actually intended more for the girl's captor to hear rather than with the interest of the general public in mind. What I mean is this...they may be using some principles of criminal psychology (the article states that profilers are working on this case). By saying that the woman "is a person of interest" and that "no foul play is suspected" (when really the woman is a suspect and foul play is something that could yet be avoided in regard to homicide), the detectives/profilers may be trying to use what they know about cases/criminals like this to help protect the girl from harm and get the woman to turn herself in.

                      It's a thought. I'm not saying it's what's happening...but it could be.

                      Whether it works or not is yet to be seen. The woman may not even be following the news, but if she is, she'll feel less threatened, and if that's the case, there's a chance she won't take the girl's life and maybe she'll even let her go.

                      We'll see. Sometimes profilers/detectives are wrong.
                      Last edited by Incognito; 14th-April-2009, 03:05 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

                        But that is a tactic that would never be employed with a male abductor.

                        According to the article its almost as if a crime has not been committed...

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                        • #13
                          Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

                          very good observation Tera

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                            Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

                            Quote from TERA View Post
                            There could be another reason for this...

                            ... and if that's the case, there's a chance she won't take the girl's life and maybe she'll even let her go.
                            Yeah on reflection of what you say and the fact that they are using a profiler, I accept it could also be for professionally strategic reasons. If so, good on them for keeping the girl’s safety paramount and not the feminist ideology that I do believe is prevalent in their public services, from what I’ve read.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Police use profilers in search for Ontario girl-last seen with a woman?

                              I noticed too that the news being released about the girl is very personal...as if this personal aspect is purposeful, to get the abductor to see the little girl as a human being (with family who loves her) rather than an object or tool. It's more difficult for an abductor to do harm if they see their victim as a real human being. However, this is not always the case, particularly if the abductor is a psychopath. Seems the profilers may be covering all angles here...cutting through the objectification may help if the abductor is not a sociopath or psychopath, and appealing to the abductor's sense of avoiding criminal penalty- in case the abductor is a sociopath or psychopath.

                              Again, could be wrong here. I could be giving the Behavioral Science Unit too much credit.

                              I hope the little girl is returned safely. That's what counts here above all else.

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